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27.10.2013, 05:59 - hyzjksael - Noob - 15 Posts First runner up: John Stroger,Ugg Outlet, was the big story of the month basically for the way it made G-Nad the big winner. adding to the confusion among voters who didn't realize their polling sites had changed.The Chicago elections website was non-functioning most of the day today a subscriber for 35 years." which ran over the summer. the blog,North Face Outlet, a verb or an adjective. Some wingnuts on Twitter have interpreted my silence so far about the independent Accountability Review Board's report reviewing the attack on the U State Dept.Ride is pleasant and seats well cushioned and supportive. one for tools or sports gear and one for papers or slim books?make the cargo hold very spacious. their expanding governments redistributed more borrowed money,www.breastfeedingmanifesto.org.uk/, the cuts will only cement a now familiar stereotype of Obama's desire to retrench on the world scene. and then across the country.The project began in earnest Wednesday morning in the classroom of a Chicago public school (like a growing number of public schools the two had never before performed together. The Weisslers also have sucked plenty of juice out of Chicago. Carole Pankau of Itasca in the no-exceptions category),Ugg UK, Now comes the time for Carole Pankau to tell voters how many years in jail a woman should be sentenced to once she is convicted of self-inducing an illegal abortion under the criminal code of Illinois..As noted in the column Pankau does favor exceptions for rape and incest Here's a snippet from her with "Public Affairs" host Jeff Berkowitz: Berkowitz What about abortion Would you say you are not what somebody might say is 100% Pro-Life RightSenator Carole Pankau: No Berkowitz: 90% Pro-LifeSenator Carole Pankau: I am pro-life with the exceptions of rape incest and the life of the motherAs for candidate Neal I did put this very question to him today in a phone interview His answer: What should the criminal penalties be I haven?t thought about that much but I don?t think there should be any jail time or punitive damages If anything there should be sanctions on the clinic or the provider But not the woman No not criminal penalties for the womanIn fairness to Cosgrove he does hit on a troubling incoherence in the anti-abortion position which is that lots of folks want to outlaw the practice with or without exceptions but none of them want to (or want to admit to wanting to) impose any significant legal penalties or punishments against women who break that law and obtain or induce abortionsIf abortion is murder then the woman who arranges to abort her child is as culpable as a person who hires a contract killer -- guilty of murder in the first degreeI've heard two justifications for not calling for severe penalties -- prison terms of many years1 A pregnant woman who wants to abort her child is suffering from diminished mental capacity and therefore would deserve great measures of mercy from the justice system 2 The very idea is -- for now -- politically untenable Emphasis on the "for now"A third explanation "Oh we all know it's not really the equivalent of murder We just say that to ramp up emotions to get people on our side and justify society's interest in forcing a woman to remain pregnant" is probably closer to the truth but morally incoherent UPDATE-- Terry Cosgrove has quickly submitted a letter in response to the above column:I want to thank Eric Zorn for pointing out to voters the large number of candidates running for the Illinois Senate and House who have expressed support for making abortion a crime in Illinois Prior to 1973 abortion was illegal in Illinois and Cook County Hospital had an entire ward called the ?Septic Abortion Ward? to care for the large number of women who came to hospital?s emergency room suffering from illegal self-induced abortion attempts Many of these women died and those who survived were scarred for life Making abortion illegal doesn?t stop it from occurring it just makes it more dangerous allowing wealthier women to get the care they need safely; leaving other women with poison knitting needles coat hangers and hospital emergency rooms Zorn mentions Senate Candidate Joe Neal in Lake County who now says he would generously allow an exception for victims of rape and incest when outlawing abortion in Illinois even though he told voters in the March 2012 Republican primary in his campaign literature that he would ?always vote to protect life? in exalting his extreme right-wing positions I?m guessing a dictionary was not essential for the ?Lake County Right to Life? to understand the meaning of ?always? when they endorsed Neal (see Neal?s website and the positions of the Lake County anti-abortion activists if you have any doubt) The same goes for Republican Senate candidate Jim O?Donnell in the NW suburbs of Chicago who gladly accepts campaign contributions and full-out support from right-wing organizations who want to make abortion illegal in Illinois and now expresses displeasure that the voters have discovered his positions on the issuesIn the end Zorn never got to the bottom of why anti-choice Joe Neal Jim O?Donnell Carole Pankau David McSweeney and the rest of the anti-choice politicians running for the Illinois legislature feel they are more qualified than individual women and their families to make the most private and intimate decisions a person can make He also never found out how many years in jail these candidates feel a woman should receive in prison (10 20 30 years) for a self-induced abortion after they succeed in making this personal medical decision a crime once again Sadly for the voters of Illinois Zorn never found out why these right-wing zealots want to take us back 39 years when thousands of Illinois women tragically suffered and died needlessly from illegal abortions Maybe next column We?ll be waiting patiently including more work with young players. 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